Karel Vágner

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  • "When we played at the Palace of Culture at the Intertalent, we were invited to this lounge afterwards where these officials were - like congratulations. And well, we had some sandwiches and a glass. And this Müller suddenly... he had his kids there and they opened the Intertalent programme - super done, colourful. And they discovered that Jirka Korn had an earring. What happened there - that kind of thing changed me, that was one of the things that really shook me up. He had about 30,000 prints destroyed in that place just because Jirka had an earring. He was normally furious and Jirka couldn't do anything for at least a year from then on. Because of the earring!"

  • "We always used to sign the attendance sheet [attendance sheet] at the trainings we've already talked about. And I even have a witness to that - they were our friends, the clerks from Pragokoncert. At that time, the director of the Pragokoncert, František Hrabal, got scared with this Müller, I think - like suddenly it was the National Theater and there were no pop-music people present. And I'll tell you on my honor how it went. We came there, no guards - it's all bullshit. We just walked in. I went through and Dáša Ďuricová, my friend who is now secretary to Petr Janda, called me: 'Kája, you didn't sign the attendance sheet.' I don't understand people who are ashamed today for signing it. Nobody knew they were signing some kind of Anticharter! That's not true. And the only truth in this, as it went through, was told by Karel Gott. That it wasn't at all... When we went in there, nobody told anybody it was an Anticharter. That's just not true. They took advantage of the attendance sheets. And I can swear to that. I'm speaking for myself now. Nobody told me it was the Anticharter."

  • "We had one duty - and it was terrifying. I don't know if it was every two months, but they cancelled all our business, wherever it was, unless someone was already abroad. And we had what we called training. And that was where either Hrabal, the director, would speak, but mostly guests - and especially this Müller - who would get drunk afterwards, and the rest was free entertainment. I'll never forget, it was somewhere in Mělník, in some castle, I came home and I said, 'Look, I'm going to get sick because I can't watch this.' On the one hand it was humorous, and on the other hand... Rudolf Rokl was playing and Zelenková was singing. He came in all drunk and said, 'Zelenina, give it up, you're shit. Rudla, play.' Rudla played, angry. And he [Hrabal] was saying melodrama. I remember a line that I'll never forget: 'Red glow over Kladno and we'll grab it.' About half an hour later I had a story with him, not only me, but Luboš Brabec, who wasn't supposed to play there, but was just on business somewhere and had his guitar with him. And he came up to him and said, 'Hey, Brabčák, play Niagara.' Luboš said, 'I only play serious music, don't be angry. I... I can´t do it...' 'No shit. Play Niagara, if you're an artist.' He said: 'But I don't know how to play it, don't be angry.' 'Then lend it to Wagner.' He handed me the master instrument, which no one is allowed to touch. And I started singing, 'There's an old tramp standing on the banks of the Niagara.' And this desperate Brabec was watching me, this hand playing, to see if I'd scratch it with my fingernails. I'll never forget that. And there was everybody there, I don't know - Josef Suk, Mrs. Růžičková, the famous cembalist... And we were all embarrassed, our heads under the table. But we had to go there."

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We were embarrassed at political training, but we had to go there

Karel Vágner in 2022
Karel Vágner in 2022
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Karel Vágner is a Czech musician, double bassist, bandleader, composer and producer. He was born on 22 March 1942 in Kbely, the youngest of four sons of Josef Vágner, a veteran of World War I who took part in the naval mutiny in Pula in 1918. Karel Vágner trained as an instrument maker, but soon turned to music. After graduating from the conservatory, he played with various bands, such as the Greenhorns and the Karel Duba Orchestra. In August 1968, he survived a tragic accident in Mongolia in which several members of Duba’s orchestra were killed. In the 1970s, he founded his own Karel Vágner Orchestra, which accompanied pop music stars of the time such as Hana Zagorová or the duo Stanislav Hložek - Petr Kotvald. He travelled with the orchestra to the Soviet Union and Cuba, and he also travelled abroad many times with the Amfora football club. Together with other artists supported by the regime, he had to participate in regular political training sessions headed by Miroslav Müller, then head of the Culture Department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, or, for example, in television evenings of Soviet song. In 1977, he was among the artists who signed the so-called Anticharter at the National Theatre - but according to his own words, he only signed the attendance list, thus not deviating from the common practice at the time. In 1982, he wrote the music for the hit “Holky z naší školky” (Girls from Our Kindergarten), which became the best-selling song in Czechoslovak pop music. After 1989, he founded the music publishing house Multisonic - the first joint-stock company in the field of music.