Věra Kulhavá

"My aunt, from my mother's brother... they went to Vienna, they had to walk, and when they were being sorted, she got to Germany, so I was there a few times, and she said it was terrible, that they ate normally there, what the Germans threw out, that they didn't receive them like they always did, that they were so mean to them.. that they were like immigrants, so they ate normally there... they peeled potatoes and they would go and get them and they would eat the peelings before they were better off.

"It was terrible because we came in and our flat was completely looted, there was nothing there, I mean. We were starting all over again. Mum had to buy a wardrobe each time, so my grandmother sent her some blankets so we had somewhere to sleep, and the neighbours that were with us... we got on well with them, I remember, I came to visit them and I said, and I still remember that, they had our tablecloth and our things! But I think it's in every era that this happens, that it's normal. Who's the winner, the other ones always do, don't they..."

"I was expelled too, I can tell you that, I remember that very well. So the guards came to us, it was the guard, and they said, my mother and I were alone, that we had to pack up and that we had to take ten kilos, like what can we take is ten kilos out of the house in an hour, and then that we had to go to the meeting place, and they took us to the factory in Helenín, and we had to go there, and I was there with my mother, and I was there for about a fortnight, and then my father came and got me and took me to his place, and my mother stayed there. She went all the way to Stonařov, they used to walk there. So when she was telling me about it, she just all the stuff she was carrying, she couldn't carry it, so they threw it away on the way. That was just completely normal."