Miloš Jakac

-" and…and..live…only there for a year. Finished.. finished this academy as sub..rank… sublieutenant, as officer school can not be higher than .. sublieutenant. This rank is already as officer rank, not subofficer as sergeant major, sergeant, lance sergeant. - When graduate school in Rijeka which occupation you have? In Rijeka when you ended school education? - That was tech…I mean… a construction technician.. - Construction technician? - Architectonic… profession - And then you left to Sarajevo? - Yes. After school, yes. Yes. - There you stay for a year? - When finished this school came back home again. Taken for a questioning. Before I was released from the army…till today here somewhere I have my military booklet. Put it here in…I took it and had it with me for 35 years, it is here, in the house! Have it…what happened? - What happened after you end military service in Sarajevo? - O yes.. then I came back home. When I came, I had a girlfriend so we use to date for 3-4 years, and then.. I finished this..school..yes, for officer school.. and the army demanded for me to activate in it but I .. no..did not want to, but they, voluntarily asked me to … activate and be..become..an active officer. I said no, I go home as I have other occupation, my school and, I said that I have a girl and I want to.. get married, so I went…home. So I done this my way. After, maybe…a year I got married, and then escaped. With my wife."

-"... why did you escape? – I run away firs of all, because I look for a work, when came back from army, before got married, a year before and it was not possible. Because, they use to say: “ You could have a job there!”, you refuse to be active. And to be active means I have to become a member of communist party. I did not want to accept it. And stayed home without work. After got married felt like I have a new strength, energy and thinking it was enough of all this personal hatred and constantly checking up personal information. If someone hate you, if you seen a person to have a hat and a red star on it need to be careful because you did not know who this person is, what he wants, will bring good or bad things. I do know if you were a member of Party you got a work, you had everything. I could not get any job in Buzet, needed to go to work in Koper, Slovenia, at that time Koper belong to zone B, free territory of Trieste . My girlfriend work there in hospital and coming home for the weekend. So she asked there if they can give me any work and what to do. And I use to go to Koper sometimes when she stay there. The authority let me pass across the border but only for 24 hours. Then when we …came home I decide it is enough. We talk and agreed, my passed away wife, after a wedding to go away. - What was her name, sorry for the interruption? A girl who still your heart? - Amelija – Amelija. -From where she came from? - She was from village Štrped close to Buzet. About three kilometers from my home village. - Sorry, I interrupted you, you decide to go? - Me, to escape. And then from Koper went by bus to genuine yugoslavian border with Italy in place Bivije. - Škofije? - Škofije, yes Bivije, Škofije yes, Škofije. So we decide to go there. To cross it. Went from Koper to…to border. And then we came out from border to prepare for crossing it, there was a restaurant .. a quite big one, exist even today. I said let us go inside but she did not know where…I said whe… not to get hurt. I did knew every military tactic. So said to her: “ Just stay by my side”. And then I see: here is the border and a small streamlet, not deep, deep, about 10 meters of depth, and then rising up, that was a point where one… police… headquarters. Across that point army was positioned."