Milan Pavlištík

* 1963

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  • "First of all, the first interrogation. Then it evolved slowly. Like, they knew I was at work, so they rang the bell, mum answered the door and didn't really know what to do. She asked them in for coffee, and they had a nice 'tour' of the flat. I already knew then; I didn't have any stuff at home. I always had it with friends, but ones who weren't known from the pub because I knew folks in the pub were informers. I didn't know then that there was a bug in the barrier near our table in the pub. It went gradually. My sister finished high school and wasn't allowed to go to university. My mother went from being a shoe store manager to a warehouse worker to a cleaner. Suddenly, my friends who used to be willing to sign petitions and whatnot were unhappy to see me and didn't want to sign. Then I learned how they were taken away from work to these interrogations and intimidated. A lot of them had said they would sign the Charter, but in the end nobody did."

  • "We had our table in the pub where these people of the same ilk would meet. You went in, and our table faced the big window like that. There was a barrier, and the guy who bought the pub showed me this hole in it: 'See that? This is not a knot hole - there was a bug in there, and they came here to pull that out.'"

  • "My father was with the PTP (military auxiliary battalions) because my grandfather was a kulak. What's great about it is that he came from Kelč, that is from Lhota u Kelč, and, as is well known, film director Mr. Jasný came from Kelč, and he made the film All My Good Countrymen based on that. I had a first-hand experience of it. When my grandfather's last horse was taken away from him, he went to bed, lay there for a year and lost interest in the world. Then one day he asked his father to take him to the Jeseníky Mountains to see the horse, and when he saw what it looked like, he went home and died a few days later."

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    Rožnov pod Radhoštěm, 30.10.2024

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The phone book didn’t leave marks on the body like a baton

Milan Pavlištík in 2024
Milan Pavlištík in 2024
photo: Photo taken during the filming in 2024

Milan Pavlištík was born in Kelč on 7 March 1963. His grandfather František Pavlištík steadily refused to join the farming cooperative; Milan witnessed František Pavlištík’s last horse being taken away during his childhood. His grandfather then gave up on life and died within a year. During his adolescence, Milan met older friends known as ‘longhairs’. Since he was trained as a high current electrician for locomotives and initially worked on the railroad, he owned a network ticket - an unlimited train ticket for entire Czechoslovakia. With it, he could easily travel between Moravia and Prague and transport samizdat. These were copied in Police near Valašské Meziříčí - mainly Infoch, but also the local equivalent of the Vokno magazine, the periodical Satyr. Milan Pavlištík signed Charter 77 in 1986. The regime began to continuously harass him. Nobody would employ Milan and he faced a threat of prosecution for ‘parasitism’. His sister was not allowed to study and his mother was demoted from an office position to a cleaning lady. Milan Pavlištík co-organised several underground festivals and experienced a brutal crackdown by the armed forces during the state-cancelled festival in Žabčice near Brno. The State Security harassed him until the Velvet Revolution in November 1989. When Milan Pavlištík discovered that the arrival of democracy was being publicly celebrated by people who had shunned or even bullied him during the normalisation period, he decided not to get involved in public events. During the years of freedom, he organised three music festivals for Ivan Martin Jirous, known as Magor, the last of which took place only after Jirous’ death. Milan Pavlištík lived in Rožnov pod Radhoštěm at the time of the interview.